Birth Of Octuplets Spurs Debate

   By drodriguez  Feb 01, 2009
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One young mother and her eight new babies are causing quite a stir in the news recently.  Because of the details surrounding Nadya Suleman’s case, the ethics involved in the birth of her octuplets has become much debated over.  Suleman, who is a 33-year-old single mother of six children from previous in-vitro procedures, currently lives with her parents.

Nadya Suleman's mother, Angela Suleman, has expressed concern over her daughter’s actions and recently told the Associated Press that she was not supportive of her decision to have more children.  Angela Suleman has told the press that her daughter was obsessed with having children and has talked about it since she was a teenager.

The Associated Press reports that all of the 8 babies, 6 boys and 2 girls, were delivered by Cesarean section.  The babies weighed anywhere between 1 pound, 8 ounces and 3 pounds, 4 ounces.  Seven of the eight babies are breathing on their own while one remains on a respirator.  It took 46 doctors and staff to assist in the delivery of these octuplets. 

Much of the recent debate has been about whether doctors should have offered the 33-year-old mother of six the option to undergo in-vitro fertilization treatment.  Ethicists also question why the doctors would have implanted so many embryos.  And still others worry about how the mother will raise 14 children, now ranging in age from newborn to 7 years old and whether she will end up relying on public assistance.

A former caregiver to Nadya Suleman’s autistic son, Yolanda Garcia, spoke with the Long Beach Press-Telegram about the mother’s recent delivery.  She said, “From what I could tell back then, she was pretty happy with herself, saying she liked having kids and she wanted 12 kids in all.” 

What do you think of the news about the recent octuplet birth?

Do you think doctors are at fault for allowing this mother to receive fertility treatment?



 

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haveitoldyoulately by haveitoldyoulately | BROOKLYN, NY
Feb 13, 2009

I believe in-vitro fertilization is a wonderful treatment for those who are unable to conceive. That said, this situation hurts my heart. I too am an only child, and growing up always wanted my family to include 5 children. When reality sets in, and you realize the cost of care and raising these children to the best of your ability and pocket.....my husband and I stopped at 2. Knowing she has no means of support, other than government assistance ... be it HER dream to have tons of children is ludicrous. As for the doctor who went along with this whole sham....the state of California should hand him the hospital bill. Plastic surgeons do mental health screening of patients who they feel have had one too many procedures. Did this doctor not find the need to refer this patient to a psychotherapist? Suleman without a doubt needs help.....but who will give the quality help to these 14 children?

DivaMom812 by DivaMom812 | WOBURN, MA
Feb 13, 2009

So I've been skimming the comments so far and I can't help but notice that noone has picked up on the fact that this chick has an autistic son ON TOP OF the other 13 children who may or may not develop other issues on down the road. What is this woman thinking? Is it fair at all to her ONE child that she has just redirected the focus that he will need for the rest of his life, to take away the advocacy that only a mother can fight with, to redirect the energy that a mother needs in order to advocate to the state, the school systems, other parents etc. for her son with special needs. I am completely disgusted by this woman's inability to see past her own wants and needs and actually put her childrens best interest in the forefront.... Are you kidding me?

meowmix by meowmix | peach bottom, PA
Feb 13, 2009

AND it stinks that there is a man out there that can just ignore it all. What kind of man would birth 14 kids and not even feel any responsibility--they are his kids too, and he cannot change that. If a woman did this, she would be ostracized!

meowmix by meowmix | peach bottom, PA
Feb 13, 2009

We are not even considering how she will have insurance on these kids--Medicaid to include prescriptions, etc. ANd there are so many kids now that do not have insurance because the middle class makes too much to qualify and not enough to buy it, and she can qualify. I know in PA there is a waiting list for adult CHIPS program of several years.

trina1975 by trina1975 | BLUE GRASS, IA
Feb 13, 2009

Here's an idea, instead of them taking up money to help pay for all of those kids and instead of having help from the taxpayers, we should make the DOCTOR who did this pay for it all!

cutepea by cutepea | Republic, MO
Feb 13, 2009

Each child is a gift from God-if she wanted them wonderful-but I am sick of her Attonrney-spokeswoman (whatever she is) telling the American Public we all need to help those children-We all support at least three of her children(the ones with disabilities) so now were going to have to support in total 14-Not Fair! Oh we all (taxpayers) will be paing the outragous hospital bill-Medicaid will cover it-I'm sure thats what she thought when she wanted more kids-State will pay. I have a cousin, a few years ago she had the same attitude I can have more the state will pay-her first child the hopital bill was $60,000 b/c she was 3 months early then her third was 2 months early another $50,000 out of "we" americans pockets. Maybe instead of everyone taking care of her ,I know she loves her babies but why not think what is best for them-maybe Adoption.

meowmix by meowmix | peach bottom, PA
Feb 13, 2009

I saw on TV she even had money to get plastic surgery. They showed before and after pics about it. I even heard on the news she wanted her first interview to be with Opra for 2 million, but ended up doing it for the today show for free. All seems too rumor-like to me. I wish I could just get the facts even though i probably won't like the facts. She is a nut case in the least sense. A couple of those 6 kids have disabilities already and that in itself is enough reason to stop--what if more have disabilities?

jul516 by jul516 | PALATKA, FL
Feb 13, 2009

I caught a bit on the news this morning that the doctor is dodging any comments as far as WHY he would do such a thing!? What was he thinking? Certainly can't quite hide this little boo boo from the public. First of all can that doctor's license and send him down the road. What other unethical practices has he done over the years?

abstractidea by abstractidea | Minneapolis, MN
Feb 12, 2009

She is truly selfish. When asked if she thought if it was fair to her 6 children that she wanted to have more in the first place she said "life isn't fair" in a nonchalant way. She has some nerve! All of those children will NOT get the attention they need growing up. they will all have issues. She is selfish and only had children to satisfy her own needs. I feel horrible for those children and honestly wish the best for them. I could smack a bitch!!

AVH0806 by AVH0806 | EL CAJON, CA
Feb 12, 2009

SHE WANTS TO BE THE NEXT ANGELINA JOLIE. ONLY PROBLEM IS...... ANGELINA IS LOADED!!!! BUT EVEN ANGIE SHOULDNT HAVE ALL THOSE BABIES BECAUSE OF HER CAREER....IT TAKES TIME AWAY FROM THE CHILDREN. SHE IS THE WRONG PERSON TO LOOK UP TO! THOSE POOR BABIES....

daisy1 by daisy1 | Fort Wayne, IN
Feb 12, 2009

My heart goes out to those children. I don't see how one woman can care for 8 new babies . Will she neglect the other 6? I pity them. I don't care what octomom does , but I will not be apart of supporting her.

aqua_chick88 by aqua_chick88 | INDEPENDENCE, VA
Feb 12, 2009

I believe instead of running her down and not supporting her, then you are doing the same to those babies. Really it should be left alone.! At least she isn't a crackhead who leaves babies in the trash to die.

mindyberkson by mindyberkson | Chicago, IL
Feb 12, 2009

As an Infertility Consultant, I am embarrassed that this has happened. Now, the focus must turn to educating the patients. Determining what is an appropriate level of risk given their particular situation and individual risk adversity. Infertility is an exhaustive process. It affects every emotion, financial resources, and physically, continued treatments take a toll on one's body. And if this is not enough there are still many factors that need to play into the decision to undergo IVF treatments. What to do with frozen embryos? There are no guarantees with IVF. So how does one strike an appropriate balance? There is no one solution. But there are guidelines set because they do act in the patient's best interest. 8 embryos should equate to 4 frozen embryo transfers? Ultimately this would have allowed the same opportunity of achieving a large family, but this avenue would have afforded a chance at a similar outcome with much less risk to all involved. Mindy Berkson

agaphmou by agaphmou | ASTORIA, NY
Feb 11, 2009

geandres, hen our tax money is going to support 15 people for the rest of their lives,then we can judge!

agaphmou by agaphmou | ASTORIA, NY
Feb 11, 2009

I think she is ridiculous.First off she either has psychological problems,or she wants all these kids so she can up her welfare income.No reasonable person would want to give birth to 14 children when she can't afford them.She also risked the health of these children without caring about the risks.She should be forced to get a tubal ligation or else I see her doing this again.As for the rest of us,I'm sure we will all be taking care of her and her 14 kids for the rest of their lives!